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Today's harvest from the allotment :-




Runner beans, tomatoes, the last of the red peppers (there were four in all) and two Blenheim Orange apples.

I was talking to one of my allotment neighbours today and he was saying that even the chaps who spend hours every day on their plots have had disappointing crops this year. The weather's been all over the place of course, which hasn't helped in the least.

I'm hopeful of my overwintering crops doing better - the brassicas I planted a couple of weeks ago, including the ones kindly donated by another allotment neighbour, seem to be growing well, as are the leeks, also including some donated by another neighbour again. The red cabbage are forming hearts and I have some parsnips and a row of late carrots coming on, as well as some potatoes still to lift.

The runner beans seem to be more or less finished - there are a few more still on the plants but no more flowers. More apples to come, but only small ones, by the look of it.

Tomorrow I hope to spend some time weeding and tidying a bit more.
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posted by [personal profile] supermouse at 09:43am on 14/09/2011
Nom! Those do look beautiful all together like that.
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posted by [personal profile] cat63 at 10:01am on 14/09/2011
Thank you!

The beans were jolly nice with last night's dinner :-)
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posted by [personal profile] bluemeridian at 05:26pm on 14/09/2011
Yay, apples! I'm looking forward to those myself. :)
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posted by [personal profile] cat63 at 07:49pm on 14/09/2011
Only a few for us this year as the trees are only in their second year, but it's lovely to have some again. We'd just got a nice row of apple trees going at our house in somerset about ten years ago, when the company Rob was working for collapsed in a stinking pile of heap and we had to sell up and move :-( This is the firat chance we've had to grow apples again and it's great! :-)
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 06:36pm on 13/09/2011
Your crop still impresses ME!! I bought and planted one tomato plant in a cement planter in the back yard. It was watered well and developed lots of stems/leaves and a decent number of flowers, AFAIK, but all the flowers dropped off except for ONE which developed into a full grown and ripe tomato. So that was MY harvest. :(

(I think squirrels got a baby tomato while it was still green cause it disappeared.)

I used the tomato to make Mexican rice which was very tasty.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 06:42pm on 13/09/2011
all the flowers dropped off except for ONE which developed into a full grown and ripe tomato. So that was MY harvest. :(

Oh dear! How are you off for pollinating insects in your neck of the woods? if there aren't many, you can use an artist's paintbrush instead and do the job yourself.

I hope it hasn't put you off the whole idea and you'll have better luck next time!
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 07:06pm on 13/09/2011
I have bees around. I've seen them. Just yesterday as a matter of fact I saw one buzzing around my basil flowers busy doing its duty.

I'm not as enthused about doing tomatoes again next year but definitely want to get some more rosemary and oregano, and trying thyme and sage. And, mint ... definitely mint. I love the hot jalapeno/mint chutney I can buy at Costco to put on my home made jamaican beef patties and samosas and wonder if I could whip some up myself.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:56pm on 13/09/2011
I don't grow mint as Rob considers it an Abomination Unto Nuggan (I don't mind it myself, but I can live without it). People tell me it's a bit of a thug, so confining it to a pot might be a good idea :-)

I love sage - if it gets frosty in winter don't get the variegated sort as it isn't frost hardy. I grow purple sage myself and I seem to have manged to root some cutting this year, practically by accident (I chopped off a lump of the plant while weeding and flung the bits into pots just in case...)
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 08:54pm on 13/09/2011
That's what I thought about the basil too. I talked to my neighbour (Italian who grows tons of tomatoes which he harvests and uses to make big batches of tomato sauce) about them and he told me his spread everywhere. He commented that he thought he might get some big planters himself for them.

I'll have to see what sage plants are best suited for south-western Ontario. :) They don't HAVE to overwinter.
 

posted by [identity profile] rhiannon-s.livejournal.com at 07:06pm on 13/09/2011
If it helps, my big achievement was going to be my homegrown sunflower seeds, but the wind this last week has broken the plants down. I did manage to get one pot sheltered from the wind, but it turns out that all the snails and slugs were hiding out in that spot too.

I did get loads of mint though, but even that is dying down now.
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 07:09pm on 13/09/2011
I want mint ... several kinds if possible. But then I have to figure out what to do with them afterwards cause I'm not a big dessert garnish or mojito type person. :) One of the reasons I ended up scrapping my sweet dani basil and thai basil plants was I couldn't figure out what to with all the basil. The thai basil was REALLY spicy and I only ended up making summer rolls a couple of times this summer.
 

posted by [identity profile] rhiannon-s.livejournal.com at 07:20pm on 13/09/2011
I recommend ginger mint, it is wonderful scent and flavour. Mostly I put mint in with potatoes when I boil them. I like minted potatoes. I find any sort of boiled veg benefits from a huge whack of mint going into the pan with it.

It's a good ornamental plant too, nice dark stems with light stripy leaves and little blue flowers. Bees love it.

I also have a couple of pots of Corsican mint, which is good to add to mint tea, just to pick it up a bit. But primarily I have it for scent, just ruffling it gently is enough to release a cloud of mint scent, and leaves your hands smelling minty for hours too.

I also recommend Orange scented thyme if you want to branch out from mint.
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 07:36pm on 13/09/2011
Thank you for all the recommendations. I think I'll dig out my Stokes catalogue and do some planning for next spring. :)
 

posted by [identity profile] rhiannon-s.livejournal.com at 07:52pm on 13/09/2011
Just to add, there is no need to worry about hardiness of either mints. Mine sat in waterlogged pots all last winter, a couple of times the pots froze solid (seriously, they became just giant ice cubes), had multiple thaw/freeze periods which have seen off supposedly hardier plants and they both came up fine. The Corsican mint was a little later and slower returning to life, but after a slightly shaky start is making a serious attempt to climb out of its pots now.

I don't know how hardy the orange scented thyme is, this is the first year I've grown it and I'm keeping it indoors this winter just to make sure it gets really established. Next year it's going out and will have to cope. I know I did get virtually 100% germination from the seeds, and that it can take a bit of overwatering of seedlings (oops).
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 08:33pm on 13/09/2011
The reason I wanted to grow the thyme was that I made some really great jamaican beef patties several times now and wondered whether using fresh thyme would make them even tastier. :) I've gotten into a bit of a "hand pie" theme now and want to do jerk chicken and other varieties in one of my Sunday cooking blitzes.

It's good to know about hardiness. The 2 planters in the back yard are big cement ones that my parents used to use for flowers. I dug out the weeds and layered fresh potting soil on top and planted my herbs and the lone tomato plant in them and, since I can't bring them in, I hope to be able just cover/wrap the herbs and let them go.

Of course, I know basil is an annual but the lone rosemary plant should be ok (fingers crossed). I have to harvest the greek oregano soon though.
 

posted by [identity profile] rpdom.livejournal.com at 08:11pm on 13/09/2011
Corsican mint is lovely. I have let it go wild all over my garden. It's so small and makes a great cover for beds, preventing weeds. It also grows in the gaps on my patio and gives off a lovely smell when trodden on :-)

I don't use that variety for eating though.

I also have the ordinary mint and Black Peppermint growing in tubs. They are great for many things. I use to have Applemint as well, but it failed to come back one year.

I grew Orange scented thyme last year, but it didn't last long. I just don't seem to have the right conditions for it :(
 

posted by [identity profile] rhiannon-s.livejournal.com at 08:38pm on 13/09/2011
oh dear, sad to hear about the thyme. What conditions do you have, if you don't mind my asking? I like the smell of mine, and it is going to be going out in a nice clay pot next spring so I want to try and keep it.

Agreed on the Corsican mint on its scent, it is wonderful. I find a small amount of it added to mint tea just lifts it a little, giving it something. Even if it is supermarket own brand mint teabags, a bit of Corsican mint makes it almost like proper tea.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:50pm on 13/09/2011
I didn't even manage to germinate any basil this year :-(

When I do manage to grow some, I use it in salads. If I had loads of it, I might have a go at making my own pesto, because I love that.
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 08:27pm on 13/09/2011
I was so surprised that I manage to start 12 plants of Genovese basil from a seed packet. What I amazed me even more though was that putting 2 or more seeds per hole (as a backup) in the little pot I had with (fresh potting soil and gravel on the bottom for drainage ... I'm so excited, can you tell it was my FIRST time doing this?) did not result in ANY double plants.

So, only five plants grew the first time. The second time, I did 4 and all 4 sprouted. The last time, I only did 3 and all sprouted again. It was a very small decorative ceramic pot (3 1/2") cause I had pitched ALL the plastic ones along with their trays I had last year in the house in the great clear-up of the attic and basement. Boy, did I regret it.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 08:07am on 14/09/2011
I'm so excited, can you tell it was my FIRST time doing this?

:-) I love seeing the little seedlings come up though - it's like magic!

Do you like coriander/cilantro? That's quite easy to germinate - in fact it's taken to self-seeding on my allotment, despite not being fully hardy here. I thought of it because they tend to sprout two or three from a "seed" - I think the seeds are actually little seed pods.

I had pitched ALL the plastic ones along with their trays I had last year in the house in the great clear-up of the attic and basement. Boy, did I regret it.

Law of the universe that, I reckon - you have a load of clutter around the plce for ages, you finally get rid of it and a few days later you fins a use for it. Bah!
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 03:09pm on 14/09/2011
"I love seeing the little seedlings come up though - it's like magic!"

I agree heartily. :) I used to sprout mung beans for stir fry though so I should be used to it but it's always a shock.

"Do you like coriander/cilantro?"

I'm one of those people to whom the cilantro tastes like perfumed soap smell. :( I substitute flat parsley for it in all my recipes but I know it's not the same, of course.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 05:09pm on 14/09/2011
I'm one of those people to whom the cilantro tastes like perfumed soap smell. :(

Oh dear :-( You could grow it for the seeds though and make your own spice :)
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 05:30pm on 14/09/2011
I have an Indian grocery store nearby where I can buy whole coriander seeds for peanuts. It's really not worth taking up the space in the planters. :)
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:49pm on 14/09/2011
Fair enough :-)
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:48pm on 13/09/2011
the wind this last week has broken the plants down

Buggrit! :-(

 

posted by [identity profile] jaelle-n-gilla.livejournal.com at 07:11pm on 13/09/2011
Hmmmm... yummie! And it makes for a pretty photo too :)
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:51pm on 13/09/2011
Thanks :-)

Looking forward to tasting the apples later - they're dual-purpose eater/cooker apples, so maybe some apple sauce :-)
 

posted by [identity profile] madam-h.livejournal.com at 07:23pm on 13/09/2011
I have tomato envy!

You're way ahead of me in the overwintering stakes. All I've got is some purple sprouting broccoli and leeks. The cabbage and kale will have to come out soon, along with all the other bits and bobs. Still, I've got onions, garlic and shallots on order, so fingers crossed for both of us :)
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:53pm on 13/09/2011
I'm massively disorganised usually, but the brassicas were starting to get eaten by a lurking mollusc, so I figured they'd have a better chance in the great outdoors :-)

I really love the Gartenperle cherry tomatoes - they're probably the most tomatoe-y tomatoes I've ever tasted.
 

posted by [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com at 09:02pm on 13/09/2011
These crops are all gorgeous. Well done!
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 08:20am on 14/09/2011
Thank you!

I hope the weather will be kinder next year though - the crops have been much better in previous years. Except for the peppers - this is the first year I've managed to get them to ripen!
 

posted by [identity profile] g8bur.livejournal.com at 09:42pm on 13/09/2011
A lovely crop! I particularly like the look of those small runner beans; I'll bet they'll be (or were) excellent eating.

We're champing our way through Williams pears at the moment (not too fast in my case, lest I suffer too-much-fruit-itis :-( ) and the apples are pretty well ready. How many of them we'll be able to use is the problem; I can only cook so many of the Bramleys (there must be 500lb. or more on the tree), and we can only nom so many of the Cox's and Charles Ross. The rest will probably go back to nature as usual.

I trust that your overwintering veg will grow well. We've just finished the first British brussels sprouts I've bought this season with tonight's dinner. I'm looking forward to good local leeks and cabbages from the autumn farmers' markets too.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 08:41am on 14/09/2011
Thank you!

I can only cook so many of the Bramleys (there must be 500lb. or more on the tree), and we can only nom so many of the Cox's and Charles Ross.

What a shame! Still, I daresay the wildlife will appreciate the ones you can't cope with. I'd suggest making wine from some of the excess, but since Geoff doesn't drink that wouldn't be much help either...

I'm looking forward to good local leeks and cabbages from the autumn farmers' markets too.

No runner beans to be had therefrom? I must say though, the beans are usually my most reliable crop but this year even they haven't done too well.
 

posted by [identity profile] g8bur.livejournal.com at 09:01am on 14/09/2011
What a shame!

It is indeed. I'd love to offer them to the local shop, but I'd have the Food Squad on my neck, and a big fat fine or worse, for supplying them (even free of charge) without a licence - and on top of that, I'd have legal product liability considerations, even were I licensed to supply food :-(

I'd suggest making wine from some of the excess, but since Geoff doesn't drink that wouldn't be much help either...

It's a thought, but I'm not quite sure how Bramley wine would come out - it'd need tons of sugar to make it sweet enough to be drinkable, I'd have thought. TBH, I haven't really got the space to set up winemaking kit either :-(

No runner beans to be had therefrom?

They'll have them on their stalls, but even from the farmers' markets they'll be long and tough, as they let them grow to that size for maximum crop weight. Quality has really gone way downhill for this, my previously favourite vegetable[1], in the past decade or so.

[1]I now favour Brussels sprouts, which seem to have improved vastly in quality over roughly the same period.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 09:09am on 14/09/2011
I'd love to offer them to the local shop, but I'd have the Food Squad on my neck, and a big fat fine or worse, for supplying them (even free of charge) without a licence

Bah! I suppose it's not worth bunging a box by the front gate with a "Please help yourself" notice? Or would the Food Squad frown on that too?

I acquired some Bramleys from a fellow racer at the weekend who brought a big bag in for anyone who wanted them. Contraband! :-)

even from the farmers' markets they'll be long and tough

Bah encore! How annoying!
 

posted by [identity profile] g8bur.livejournal.com at 09:21am on 14/09/2011
Bah! I suppose it's not worth bunging a box by the front gate with a "Please help yourself" notice? Or would the Food Squad frown on that too?

Technically, they could, if they felt like it. AIUI, it's one of those things they currently choose to overlook, but could get awkward about if they got out of bed on the wrong side that morning. IIRC, a chap who put out runner beans for 50p a bag got told off by his local council for not conforming to the food regs; they didn't prosecute, but he had to stop doing it.

I acquired some Bramleys from a fellow racer at the weekend who brought a big bag in for anyone who wanted them. Contraband! :-)

:-)

We gave each of our neighbours a big bag of Williams pears, and the people to one side of us have put out some apples. I've seen people selling fruit at a couple of recent radio rallies I've been to, but I'd imagine they have no idea of the rules.

Bah encore! How annoying!

It is infuriating, but I suppose they're almost as much profit-driven as the shops are these days.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 09:26am on 14/09/2011
IIRC, a chap who put out runner beans for 50p a bag got told off by his local council for not conforming to the food regs; they didn't prosecute, but he had to stop doing it.

Oh for goodness' sake!

I know I'm not allowed to sell produce from my allotment, which is fair enough - I suppose that would make it a markey garden or something - but if people want to give stuff away, they ought to be allowed to, I think.

I can see where there might be some concern about unpleasant people tampering with the food, but there has to be a limit to that sort of paranoia.
 

posted by [identity profile] g8bur.livejournal.com at 09:35am on 14/09/2011
Oh for goodness' sake!

I know I'm not allowed to sell produce from my allotment, which is fair enough - I suppose that would make it a markey garden or something - but if people want to give stuff away, they ought to be allowed to, I think.


It is totally daft, isn't it? The government claim that they want to do away with unnecessary regulation - in my view, they could do well to start with silly rules like those. Common sense about food was always enough in the past, and so it should still be today.

I can see where there might be some concern about unpleasant people tampering with the food, but there has to be a limit to that sort of paranoia.

I absolutely agree; unfortunately, the rules seem to get made by people who have too much time on their hands, so they make them as awkward, convoluted, and restrictive as they can get away with - apparently almost out of spite, it would seem.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 10:00am on 14/09/2011
And, as often happens, it results in them being at cross-purposes with their own policies - they've been urging people to eat more fresh fruit and veg for years and promoting "grow your own" as a means to that. It seems to me to be a logical extension of that to encourage people who have a surplus of home-grown produce to give it away to people who can't manage to do it themselves.

I am clearly far too sensible to be allowed to be in charge of anything :-)
 

posted by [identity profile] g8bur.livejournal.com at 11:17am on 14/09/2011
And, as often happens, it results in them being at cross-purposes with their own policies - they've been urging people to eat more fresh fruit and veg for years and promoting "grow your own" as a means to that.

Well exactly. However, they constantly berate people for drinking "too much", yet rake in billions every year in drink duty, so wanting/having it both ways is nothing new to them...

It seems to me to be a logical extension of that to encourage people who have a surplus of home-grown produce to give it away to people who can't manage to do it themselves.

Likewise to me. I strongly suspect, though, that they don't want people to supply other people free (or for cash) with what could otherwise be sold to them by companies who pay corporation tax, VAT, and all kinds of other fees, and who employ payers of income tax - much the same reasoning as I suspect lies behind the rules against doing some types of DIY electrical wiring (only for that, they dress it up in a great big "safety" banner).

Cynical? Moi?
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 11:22am on 14/09/2011
Cynical? Moi?

Moi aussi! I suspect, if anything, we underestimate their perfidy :-(
 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 03:21pm on 14/09/2011
I'm surprised at how strict the selling of veggies from allotments are. Here in south-western Ontario (specifically Essex County) where the Tomato capitol of Canada, "Leamington" is located, lots of people set up stands on the highways and county roads and sell their farm produce without any issue. My mom used to sell their fruits, vegetables, chicken eggs and live poultry, mostly chickens but the occasional duck and goose. I think they even had a few rabbits. In the city, they set up in mall parking lots and you can also buy flowers in pots around Mother's day and Easter etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex_County,_Ontario

I just found out we have an 'official' tartan as well.
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 05:13pm on 14/09/2011
I don't know if it's the same for all allotments - our site is a private one and it's in the rules that we're not allowed to sell stuff.

There's a lot of giving each other things though - just today one of my neighbours said I was welcome to pears from his tree if I wanted some. People are wonderfully generous.

I quite often see little stalls outside people's houses with veg for sale, usually with an "Honesty box" for people to put the money in, but I don't know if they're strictly legal. Probably not.



 

posted by [identity profile] a-boleyn.livejournal.com at 05:28pm on 14/09/2011
My parents used to let people go and pick their own watermelons, muskmelon, tomatoes, strawberries, green beans etc and basically haggle for the price based on how much stuff they bought. It was never really a moneymaker but something my father wanted to do after he retired. Same with the eggs and chickens. And they gave a lot away to people who looked like they were hard up. It only got bad when there was a drought and my dad's well ran dry so he had to pay for county water ... at which point he let the crops dry in the fields and roto-tillered the vegetation back into the field in the fall.
 

posted by [identity profile] rhiannon-s.livejournal.com at 09:51pm on 14/09/2011
Ah-hah I know the answer to this, there was a docu on the other day that mentioned it. It's because when allotments were originally set up, they were specifically for people without access to gardens or plots to grow their own food and improve their family's health. If they were allowed to sell what was grown the fear was all the profits would disappear on fripperies (or worse, get siphoned upwards in the form of trading companies who would buy at low prices from allotment holders and sell high to non-allotment holders) and the public health would not improve. By preventing allotment produce from being sold, it would go exactly where it was needed. Into the mouths of the poor, the malnourished, and the generally ill-fed. They were a public health measure, not a money making (no matter how small) venture.

And now you know!
 

posted by [identity profile] cat63.livejournal.com at 07:08am on 15/09/2011
Oooh, thank you! Nice to know there were at least good intentions behind it originally.

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